European Judiast council makes ill-advised deal to undermine conversions by rabbi David Stav's movement
1 Comments Published by Avi Green on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 2:56 AM.
The European council for Orthodox Judaism is not doing the right thing with this deal they're making:
Of course, this is why I advise converts to not seek Israeli citizenship through the Law of Return, but just a regular sort like any other country. Religion shouldn't be tied in every way to a desire to live here.
The Chief Rabbinate and the Conference of European Rabbis have agreed that rabbis from Israel will not conduct conversions in Europe, while the CER will adopt a policy of non-recognition for converts who convert in Israel through independent, Orthodox rabbinical courts.So even Haredi sources who conduct private conversions are not recognized by a system that believes in a socialist tactic of regulating religious conduct through the government. It's an insult to what the US Constitution was conceived for, and somehow figures European representatives would be willing to support this, seeing how they're tragically influenced by socialism.
In 2015, several senior Orthodox rabbis in Israel established a conversion network called Giyur K’halacha, independent of the Chief Rabbinate and the state, to increase rates of conversion primarily among non-Jewish citizens from the former Soviet Union who are descendants of Jews, in order to forestall a rise in intermarriage in coming generations.
The Chief Rabbinate has fought fiercely against the initiative and has backed legislation that has not yet been passed which would give it a monopoly over Jewish conversion and revoke rights obtained for Giyur K’halacha through the courts.
The Chief Rabbinate has secured the support of the CER, the primary association of Orthodox European rabbis, which will now not recognize any convert from non-state conversion authorities.
This includes converts from Giyur K’halacha as well as those done by the haredi (ultra-Orthodox) rabbinical court of Rabbi Nissim Karelitz in Bnei Brak and others.
Of course, this is why I advise converts to not seek Israeli citizenship through the Law of Return, but just a regular sort like any other country. Religion shouldn't be tied in every way to a desire to live here.
Rabbi Seth Farber, who helped found Giyur K’halacha, was strongly critical of the CER over the deal.This is why even CER shouldn't be considered a valid outfit, as it sounds like they're taking an insular approach to life and public. If they can't learn to respect non-Orthodox forms of Judaism and recognize that they too can be legitimate - certainly so long as they avoid taking positions harmful to Israel, as some Haredi clans do - then it only compounds the terrible perception the wider public could gather about them, which is something Orthodox movements need to avoid in an era where Islamic terrorism should be the far more pressing issue.
He stated that no conversions in Europe at all have been performed under the auspices of Giyur K’halacha, and rejected Goldschmidt’s criticism of its conversion standards.
“The overwhelming majority of Giyur K’halacha converts are minors where there is no expectation that they will immediately be Shabbat observant,” said Farber.
“It is a well-known halachic norm [according to Jewish religious law] that children under [the age of] bar or bat mitzvah do not need to be fully observant in order to convert.
“The essential point is that these conversions are being done in a halachic manner, but are being rejected for political reasons so that CER can better position itself, and this is an absurdity.
“Throughout Jewish history, rabbinical courts had deep respect for one another despite their differences. This move is an absolute distortion of all halachic history. If the CER and the rabbinate understood their historic responsibility they would concern themselves with the Jewish future and the integrity of halacha, and not engage in political maneuvers to dismiss halachic converts.”
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